Showing posts with label Rod O'Donnell. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Rod O'Donnell. Show all posts

Sunday, June 14, 2026

Rod O’Donnell on Keynes and Liberal Socialism

Hits and Mises (click for the joke)

I have been rereading again Rod O'Donnell's work on Keynes' political and social philosophy. I had not read his 1989 book, Keynes: Philosophy, Economics and Politics, in a long while. The occasion is the forthcoming 7th Workshop on Demand-led Growth in Rio, organized by Ricardo Summa, where I will discuss an extension my discussion of Keynes' political views, and in particular of the question of whether Keynes should be understood as a liberal or as a socialist. I had already discussed James Crotty's important contribution to this debate in my paper for Tom Palley's forthcoming Festschrift, available here. Crotty, in Keynes Against Capitalism, argues that Keynes wanted to replace the capitalism of his time with what Keynes himself called "liberal socialism." O'Donnell's case is in some ways older and, in my view, more careful, but it moves in the same direction.
 
O'Donnell's interpretation is that Keynes' economics cannot be separated from his ethical and political philosophy. Keynes was not merely trying to fix some technical problem in the theory of employment. His economics was part of a broader project concerned with the conditions for a civilized life. Keynes' social philosophy was about much more than the level of output and employment. It was about the possibility of reducing insecurity, limiting the power of the money motive, preserving individual freedom, and creating the material conditions for the good life.
 
In the two chapters on political philosophy in the 1989 book, O'Donnell presents Keynes as a liberal, but not as an old laissez-faire liberal. Keynes was not committed to the idea that private interest automatically promoted the public good. He believed that capitalism had to be managed, that the state had to take responsibility for investment, employment, public works, education, health, the arts, and the broader conditions of civilization. According to him, Keynes was also deeply critical of the moral foundations of capitalism, especially of the acquisitive mentality and the social prestige attached to money-making. 
 
That is why O'Donnell sees Keynes as moving beyond capitalism in the long run. For him, Keynes did not admire capitalism. He thought it was ugly, unstable, and morally corrupting. For O'Donnell, the instability is deeply connected to Keynes' views on probability and uncertainty. O'Donnell sees Keynes as believing capitalism is not self-stabilizing, largely because investment and economic life are organized around uncertain expectations, money, and private profit rather than social purpose. In this view, Keynes preferred capitalism to the alternatives available in his own time, above all Soviet central planning and fascism, but not because he regarded capitalism as an ideal social order.
 
O'Donnell is right to insist that Keynes' defense of capitalism was qualified. But I am less sure that Keynes wanted to transition to an alternative social arrangement. His disregard for some aspects of capitalism seems more aesthetic, at least based on his several bios, including Skidelsky's one, and in his writings like 'My Early Beliefs.' He might have thought that the pursue of profit was vulgar, and that the good life resided in the arts and the pursuit of beauty. But beauty and arts were defined in an avant-garde, elitist way. I doubt he saw beauty in a football game (or soccer as people calls it in the US). As I noted in the paper linked above, following Skidelsky, Keynes wanted to preserve the social arrangements in which he was brought up, the presuppositions of Harvey Road, as Harrod would have called them.
 
In his later 1999 essay on Keynes and socialism, O'Donnell pushes this further. Keynes, he argues, should be taken seriously as a "liberal socialist." The term, of course, was used by Keynes himself. O'Donnell's point is that socialism should not be reduced to Marxism, public ownership, class struggle, or revolutionary transformation. If socialism is understood more broadly as the use of social control for public purposes, then Keynes can be understood as a socialist of a particular kind.
 
There is something to this. Many of Keynes' views would now be seen as social democratic. Full employment policy, redistribution, social security, public works, capital controls, the euthanasia of the rentier, the socialization of investment, and the rejection of laissez-faire all became part of the language of the postwar welfare state. In that sense, Keynes does not fit the later caricature of liberalism as simply market liberalism. He is closer to the use of the term in the United States. But he belongs to a different tradition, the New Liberal tradition.
 
Peter Clarke's Liberals and Social Democrats shows that there was a group of left Liberals before Keynes, figures such as L. T. Hobhouse, J. A. Hobson, Graham Wallas, and the Hammonds, who moved British liberalism beyond the Gladstonian night-watchman state. They were all close to the Fabian Socialists, the Webbs, and Shaw, in varying degrees, and they all had a break with Fabianism. They accepted that formal liberty was not enough in a society marked by poverty, unemployment, inherited privilege, and social destitution. In that respect, they were close to what would later be called social democracy. That's Clarke's point to some extent, they were liberals and social democrats.
 
Indeed, one could say that they were among the intellectual ancestors of Keynes' liberalism. They were certainly moving away from liberalism, but, in my view, they fell short of social democracy, certainly as it was defined at that time, since they were averse to class conflict politics, and detached from any conception of the working class as the agent of political change. They were not Fabian Socialists (who mostly accepted marginalist economics), let alone Marxists, and certainly did not join Labour. They felt well represented by the Liberal Party under Asquith, and Lloyd George's People's Budget. In fact, Clarke suggests that Hobson's theories could be seen as shaping the policies of the Liberal administration.

Keynes' own political position is easier to understand in that context. He was not a socialist or a social democrat. He was a New Liberal, or perhaps a late heir to New Liberalism, who thought that liberal civilization could survive only if laissez-faire was abandoned. His political project was not to replace capitalism with working-class power, but to preserve a civilized, decentralized, liberal society by reforming capitalism from above. Managed by an educated elite, and not workers themselves. What distinguished him from the earlier New Liberals was that he developed a theory of why capitalism, although stable in purely economic terms, could settle into persistent unemployment and fail to resolve social conflicts harmoniously, thereby becoming politically unstable. But his theory was far more radical than his politics. He remained, as noted by Palley here, deeply antagonistic to the politics of class antagonism.
 
This does not mean that Keynes was against workers, at least not in any simple sense. On the contrary, his policies were favorable to workers. Full employment strengthens workers. Redistribution improves the bargaining position of workers. Public works reduce unemployment and insecurity. Low interest rates and the euthanasia of the rentier weaken capital. But none of this makes Keynes a socialist if socialism has anything to do with the working class as a political subject.
 
He was elitists and paternalistic when it came to workers. Keynes did not ground his politics in labor. He did not regard trade unions, class struggle, or workers' control as the foundations of a new social order. He certainly did not call for the abolition of private property or the collective ownership of the means of production (well duh!). Indeed, it is not even clear that he would have accepted the more moderate Labourite objective of bringing the commanding heights of the economy under public ownership as desirable in itself.
 
This is why the distinction between policies favorable to workers and working-class politics matters. Keynes wanted full employment, but not because he had adopted a socialist theory of class power, and the need for alternative ways of arranging productive forces. He wanted to prevent capitalism from producing the social conditions that could lead to revolutionary politics, authoritarianism, or collapse. In that sense, the old claim that Keynes wanted to save capitalism remains broadly correct, but it must be qualified. He wanted to save capitalism from laissez-faire capitalism. The educated bourgeoisie, people like him, would be in charge. That was illustrated by his remarks on Bretton Woods conference as a "monkey house" because of the presence of delegates from the dominions and other lesser countries.

This is also why the New Liberal connection is more useful than the socialist label. The New Liberals were reformers who understood that liberty required social conditions. They were critical of poverty and unearned income. They supported social reform and the early welfare state. But they were not socialists in the sense of grounding politics in class struggle, collective ownership or an alternative to the capitalist system. Keynes radicalized this tradition in the context of the interwar crisis, the collapse of the gold standard, mass unemployment, and the failure of orthodox economics. But he did not abandon its basic political orientation.
 
This is the crucial point. O'Donnell is right that Keynes was not a laissez-faire liberal. He is also right that Keynes used the term liberal socialism, and that Keynes' policies moved far beyond orthodox Liberal Party economics. But the problem is that O'Donnell can call Keynes a socialist only by expanding the meaning of socialism so much that it begins to cover what is more precisely called New Liberalism.
 
The paradox, then, is that Keynes' economics was more radical than the economics of many socialists of his time. Labour politicians were often trapped in sound finance and Treasury orthodoxy, while Keynes was willing to experiment with public works, managed investment, and the abandonment of old rules. But Keynes remained, in political terms, closer to the liberal tradition to which he repeatedly declared his allegiance. The confusion comes from the fact, as I emphasized in the paper linked above, that Keynes was never a socialist, but socialists eventually converted to Keynesianism. However, post-war socialists and social democrats used Keynesian tools in the fight to promote labor power. Keynesian means, but not Keynesian ends.

Friday, May 8, 2026

Stiglitz on Keynes and the instability of capitalism

 
Stiglitz delivering the 6th Godley-Tobin Lecture in 2023*

The Economist published a short piece by Joseph Stiglitz on Keynes. I would agree with Stiglitz's on the broad political point that Keynes was not a revolutionary socialist, as I have discussed before. He wanted to save capitalism from itself, as they say. Stiglitz essentially says the same. For him: “Roosevelt’s pragmatism and Keynes’s ideas saved capitalism from the capitalists,” because unfettered capitalism in a prolonged depression might not have survived. He also says Keynes was “no left-wing radical,” believed in the market economy, and saw intervention as a “minor fix” rather than a revolution.

Stiglitz correctly suggests that Keynes remained a liberal, not a socialist, and that he was a moderate in politics even if he was willing to experiment pragmatically with policy. In that he differs from Jim Crotty, and Rod O'Donnell's work on Keynes political views, who suggest he was a socialist. Stiglitz, in contrast, suggests that Keynes understood that laissez-faire capitalism had to be transformed or transcended, but he did not abandon bourgeois liberal society. In my paper I say he was “a revolutionary in economic theory, but a moderate in his politics.”

The key difference between Stiglitz interpretation and my view is on theory. Stiglitz’s Keynes is still, to a significant extent, the Keynes of mainstream Keynesianism. Markets can fail badly, can remain in unemployment for long periods, and government spending is needed to stabilize demand. But he frames the issue partly as one of slow self-correction. Even if there are forces bringing the economy back to full employment, “they worked too slowly” to avoid hardship. That leaves open a conventional reading in which Keynes is mainly an imperfectionist, for whom markets may eventually work, but sluggish wages, prices, interest rates, failed expectations related to uncertainty, or financial frictions that make the adjustment too slow.

The disagreement is not over Keynes’ politics, but over the depth of his theoretical break. Stiglitz emphasizes Keynes as the economist who showed that government could stabilize an inherently unstable capitalist economy. I would emphasize Keynes as the economist who broke with Say’s Law and developed the Principle of Effective Demand. That is why, in my interpretation, Keynes is not simply saying that markets adjust too slowly to full employment, rather he is saying there is no automatic tendency to full employment even with flexible wages and prices. Even if he had to resort to uncertainty at the end, because in many ways he remained too close to mainstream Marshallian principles.

The point is not that Keynes thought capitalism was intrinsically chaotic in the sense of constantly tending toward breakdown. Rather, he thought it could be economically stable in a bad equilibrium, capable of persisting for long periods at sub-normal levels of output and employment. He said so in the General Theory, capitalism is “not violently unstable,” and may remain in “a chronic condition of sub-normal activity for a considerable period without any marked tendency either towards recovery or towards complete collapse."

Stiglitz emphasizes instability in the more conventional economic policy sense. Capitalism produces deep fluctuations, depressions, recessions, and crises, and Keynes showed that government could counteract them. That is true, but it risks making Keynes look like someone whose main theoretical contribution was to show that capitalism is unstable and needs stabilization policy. The Keynes of the 1920s essentially defended that. In my view, Keynes’ more radical theoretical point, only developed in the early 1930s, was different, the system can be stable without being self-correcting to full employment.

Stiglitz stresses Keynes as the theorist of crisis prevention and macroeconomic stabilization, which is fair enough. Certainly that is the dominant view on Keynes. I would stress Keynes as the theorist of stable underemployment capitalism. The danger, for Keynes, was not simply that capitalism would spiral mechanically into economic collapse. The danger was that a system capable of remaining stuck below full employment would generate social and political pressures that could undermine liberal capitalism itself. It was politically unstable, but not necessarily in economic terms.**

Keynes wanted to save capitalism, but not because he thought markets were simply fragile and prone to immediate economic disintegration. He wanted to save capitalism because persistent unemployment and stagnation made the liberal order politically vulnerable, both to Soviet style socialism and fascism. His policy prescriptions aimed at full employment domestically in the face of the rising tide of fascism and communism, both of which he abhorred, as I noted in the paper linked above.

This makes Keynes neither a simple imperfectionist nor a crude instability theorist that believed the system to be on a knife-edge. He was trying to say something subtler. Capitalist economies may be stable enough to survive economically at low levels of activity, but precisely that stability at underemployment makes them politically dangerous. The economic problem is not automatic collapse, but the absence of any reliable automatic mechanism restoring full employment. It was a political problem, and it remains so, even if there are some important changes from his time.

Today, at least in the United States and other advanced economies, the problem is less often mass unemployment in the Keynesian sense than the quality, security, remuneration, and social meaning of employment. Capitalism may deliver low levels of unemployment while still producing precarious, poorly paid, or socially degrading jobs, thereby reproducing a different form of political instability.

* Stiglitz's Godley-Tobin Lecture is free for download here.

** Capitalism would undermine political stability. On a recent post on Schumpeter (the one in the Substack) I suggested that: "The irony is that Schumpeter thought that markets were efficient and capitalism would collapse, while Keynes thought that markets produced suboptimal results, and that capitalism might survive." I would add, Schumpeter thought that democracy would undermine capitalism, Keynes thought that capitalism would undermined democracy.

Thursday, November 17, 2016

CROWDFUNDING CAMPAIGN FOR THE JMK WRITINGS PROJECT

From Rod O'Donnell

DECEMBER 8, 2016.

THE CLOSING DATE FOR THE CROWDFUNDING CAMPAIGN FOR THE JMK WRITINGS PROJECT.

I thank, from the bottom of my heart, all those who have backed the campaign, with donations ranging from USD5 to USD1,000. Almost everyone has said complimentary things about the proposed edition (‘great idea’, ‘wonderful project’, ‘best of luck’ etc), but far fewer have followed up with contributions.

The bottom line is this. Funds are essential if the edition is to be realized. The people undertaking the large and necessary tasks of word-processing documents and background research need to be paid. All the money raised by crowdfunding will be devoted to document preparation, not to travel for document collection.

It is now time for the many supporters of the project to get serious about whether they want also to be backers and so help make the edition a reality. Time is running out − only about 3 weeks remain before the crowdfunding campaign ends. Recent events have made understanding Keynes’s economics, politics and philosophy even more important.

If you would like to provide material support, please go, before December 8, to

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/jmk-writings-project-stage-1

This link also gives more information about the project, the campaign and the editor.

Remember the overall aim: to benefit the world by completing the publication of all of Keynes’s writings of academic significance, only about one third of which are presently available.

THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR BACKING OF THE JMK WRITINGS PROJECT.

Professor Rod O’Donnell, University of Technology Sydney, Australia.

Contact: jmkwritingsproject@gmail.com

See also https://www.uts.edu.au/staff/rod.odonnell

Tuesday, August 16, 2016

Crowdfunding campaign to publish Keynes' remaining writings



OVERALL AIM: To complete the publication of ALL of Keynes’s remaining unpublished writings of academic significance.

Only about ONE THIRD were published in the Royal Economic Society edition. A huge quantity of VALUABLE unpublished material remains, scattered across 60 archives in 6 countries.

AIM OF THIS CAMPAIGN: Preparation of the Eton and early Cambridge volumes.

CAMPAIGN START: 11 October 2016.

TO LOCATE PROJECT: Google ‘JMK Writings Project Indiegogo’.

It is also planned, with publisher cooperation, for the campaign to assist selected universities in developing countries.

HOW YOU CAN HELP

1. Spread the word prior to the campaign launch – to academic colleagues (in economics or elsewhere), students in classes, conference participants, policy-makers, parliamentarians, philanthropists etc.

2. Make, and encourage, donations, of ANY size, according to your situation. Especially on the first or second day of the campaign. Experience shows that strong starts are correlated with strong finishes.

Editor: Professor Rod O’Donnell, University of Technology Sydney, Australia.

Contact: jmkwritingsproject@gmail.com

See also: https://www.uts.edu.au/staff/rod.odonnell